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I've read my way through all the Steubenville Files I was unable to watch or listen to all 12 minutes of the video. I got through about 4.5 minutes before I had to turn it off.

For my own sanity.

Why aren't more people talking about this? Are people trying to guard their sanity like I am, because if I think about it too much I start to lose it.

Date: 2013-01-08 01:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] turnonmyheels.livejournal.com
I'm with you on all of that. You know this though :-) There have been more NOT!Dominant Derek fics written, but none of them are really hitting me where I live [other than that after-care fic, that was sublime].

The thing with Stiles that bugs the shit out of me is people keep writing him as this immensely kind, caring, and generous person. He's not though. His protective instincts only flare for his Dad and Scott. He comes through when it comes to saving Derek's life, but even when he had the opportunity to be something to Lydia he wound up leaving her there [to save Derek].

Stiles *enjoys* making people uncomfortable and *pushing* them. I can see him being a Dom without any trouble. He just really needs to work on his coordination, because you don't want someone that freaking awkward aiming any type of object at your body. Well, Derek wouldn't mind because he would heal ;-)


I *want* you to write that fic. I want you to write that fic so badly I can hardly stand it.

Date: 2013-01-08 07:11 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] ladycat777.livejournal.com
The thing with Stiles that bugs the shit out of me is people keep writing him as this immensely kind, caring, and generous person.

The thing is, I think Stiles *is* that person- but only for a very, very, VERY select group. At first, it's his Dad and Scott. No one else. Derek gets worked in bc he's Derek and intense and interesting and Stiles clearly likes that, so there's... an orbit that happens, maybe. Their relationship is not caring or kind at all, and in s1 at least all about Scott, but again, I could see it *getting* there. I can see Stiles as pack-mom and not just bc I find that trope adorable. I just don't think it's as simple as most of the writers who do it think it will be for Stiles.

Stiles, by his nature, is not generous so much as possessive. He'll do anything to keep you, and keep you well. He'll also do a lot of shit that he shouldn't to accomplish those things, because Stiles isn't *nice* either.

Not without you meaning something to him, anyway. Then he can be.

I dunno. Fandom always goes for facets of characters rather than the whole of their personalities. That's always the way it is. I can see why packmom!Stiles bugs you, and personally I love when he's a little darker, a little more of a jerk the entire time, but I dunno. I can see it, too. Just... he has to *get* there first.

Date: 2013-01-09 04:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] turnonmyheels.livejournal.com
Oh, I agree with you that Stiles *could* become the Pack mom [it's a trope I really enjoy, I just hate all the hand waving that goes along with it] but it's not his default setting because *his* group is so small.

And yeah, Stiles is the least nice guy on the show outside of say ... an Argent ;-) until your his because he is exactly as possessive as you say. I love that about him.

Date: 2013-01-08 10:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rhiannonhero.livejournal.com
Stiles = Slytherin. Stiles = Dominant. Absofrigginlutely. Stiles also = asshole quite often. He's not a super sweetie pie. That's one thing I felt like I got right in my abandoned WiP for them. Stiles was a dick and he knew it and he used it to his advantage.

Date: 2013-01-09 04:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] turnonmyheels.livejournal.com
YES! He's not the super sweetie pie, that's *actually* Scott. Stiles is the one who gets it done regardless of the means it takes to do it. That's why he's my favorite, it's also why IMO the majority of fics are OOC. They forget the whole character like Ladycat said and just take the one or two facets they like best.

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