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turnonmyheels ([personal profile] turnonmyheels) wrote2012-06-20 02:14 pm

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ETA Happy birthday [livejournal.com profile] thisisbone I wish for you all the shirtless Taylor Kitsch your eyes can handle with some bonus Channing on the side ;-) Is it time for Magic Mike yet?

Dear Avengers Fandom,

For the love of all you that hold holy aka Thor:

I know Tony's last name

Pepper is not a shrieking harridan

Pepper is not a harridan

Pepper is not an obstacle to be over-come in the course of making Tony gay

People can have fluid sexuality. Even people who are extremely hetero on the Kinsey scale can sometimes to be attracted to a person, not a gender

Learn what a POV is and stick with it

Wondering and wandering mean completely different things. For that matter so do then and than. And their, they're, there.

If you write one sentence in present tense, generally speaking you should write *all* your sentences in present tense. There are some exceptions, find someone who knows more about grammar than you or I to explain them. The same works for past tense. Pick one and stick with it!

Get a beta! No really, get a beta. Or at least use the spell check function on your computer, I know you have one all computers come with them. USE IT.

If you say in your summery [see what I did there?] that you don't even know what your fic is about or that it's about ALL THE FEELS or you'll only write more if you get comments you're turning off an entire audience of ancient fandom hags like myself [and really my decade plus doesn't mark me as ancient there are people who have been doing this for 35 years +]

Please for the love of Thor, Odin, Loki, and Frigga have a fucking feeling instead of a feel. Or at least quit tagging about your feels. Your tags that you think are clever? Are actually annoying as shit. Having more than 10 tags on a story just so you'll have the most tags? Not the way to get readers.
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[identity profile] ladycat777.livejournal.com 2012-06-20 06:19 pm (UTC)(link)
I love you. I am also glad as hell that I haven't come across fic where Pepper is anything less than a BAMF that everyone bows down to, because she is and they should.

... I kind of use feels? I know! I've been corrupted with those young whippersnapper kids! It's horrible.

And yet I have ALL THE FEELS :(

[identity profile] turnonmyheels.livejournal.com 2012-06-20 06:22 pm (UTC)(link)
There are some really disturbing fics coming out where Pepper is some sort of nagging crying bitch who is only out to ruin Tony Stark's feels about Bruce/Tony/Clint/insert Avenger here.

You may have the occasional feel but I'm seeing that word popping up in fucking searchable tags at AO3. Yes, I think it's awesome you can create your own tag and all that, but JFC, some of that needs to be stopped.

Science bro feels? Needs to die from palladium poisoning.
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[identity profile] ladycat777.livejournal.com 2012-06-20 06:25 pm (UTC)(link)
See, that makes no sense at all to me. Darcy using the term feels? Yes. She is the tumblr generation and therefore would have all their lingo. Hell, it doesn't even bother me when she thinks 'totes'.

Well. Most of the time it doesn't anyway.

Still. Darcy is a logical person to have feels. Tony? Not so much. The tagging thing bothers me less because that's internal nomenclature, but dear freaking god, people, most of us are not 13 years old.

Pepper as nagging bitch makes me saaaaaaaaad. I mean, she can probably nag? But that is a *tool*. Not a state of being.

[identity profile] turnonmyheels.livejournal.com 2012-06-20 06:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, dude, Darcy is allowed. Granted most of what I read in her characterization is completely and totally fanon, it works with her.

The rest of them? Huh-uh. Well, Tony if he's trying to be an ass to Steve.

Tony is a man who has to be reminded to eat, sleep, and what his partner's allergies are. He expects Pepper to make him a functional human being.
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[identity profile] ladycat777.livejournal.com 2012-06-20 06:43 pm (UTC)(link)
I could see Tony and possibly even Clint using it to be an ass. Because they are good at being asses, and while I'm not sure where Clint would've heard it, his saying it wouldn't be shocking in the right (read: dickish) circumstances.

Who doesn't think Pepper is the most awesome thing to ever awesome? This makes me really sad. One of the things I've really liked with Avengers is how the 'canon' relationships are just sort of ignored or gracefully worked around (ie, pepper and tony had to stop dating and instead are back to best friends), rather than bashing.

[identity profile] turnonmyheels.livejournal.com 2012-06-20 06:57 pm (UTC)(link)
ITA with the dickish circumstances. But I don't know Clint outside the movie and I didn't really see any dickishness there. I'm hoping that's comics canon and not the entire fandom hive minding.

It makes me sad about the Pepper dislike too. It also makes me kind of violent
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[identity profile] ladycat777.livejournal.com 2012-06-20 08:05 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't know too much about comic!Clint, but from the synopses I've been reading, he isn't so much a dick as a wiseass. The one who cracks comments and messes people- mostly when appropriate, of course- for fun, etc. So I don't think that's hive mind.

Yes, violent. Yes.

[identity profile] turnonmyheels.livejournal.com 2012-06-20 08:07 pm (UTC)(link)
good to know! especially since DWTA requires writing for him and I haven't started researching his comics yet.

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[identity profile] ladycat777.livejournal.com 2012-06-20 08:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, god, I want that fic SO MUCH.

I saw your comments about "because... science!" I kind of like that when Tony is gushing happily about Bruce and is lacking words and just goes "but, but SCIENCE". That's adorable and yes, sort of chibi like, but still on the more endearing side, I think.

But it is to be used sparingly and ironically. As humor, not as a writing convention oh my god, no. I have seen then. I back away in horror and then go read scifigrl47 again to recover.

[identity profile] turnonmyheels.livejournal.com 2012-06-20 08:18 pm (UTC)(link)
omg YES THIS: But it is to be used sparingly and ironically

this is where I think the breakdown between them and us resides

That fic is a go! It will happen, there are spreadsheets and *everything*

[identity profile] sassangel.livejournal.com 2012-06-20 06:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh dear lord. I don't know what half of what my kid says any more, I have no desire to sort through it in my entertainment.

Also, that comment for more chapters thing? I hated that ten years ago when I started and I want to rip the little fuckers heads off now and show a thesaurus down their neck when I see it now... ahem.

Seriously? It's been over a decade? Ah. The way we were... I think I feels something. Damn. I can't use this newfangled lingo.

[identity profile] turnonmyheels.livejournal.com 2012-06-20 06:33 pm (UTC)(link)
When did we get old? I mean, yeah I've always been uncool, but the lingo that pops up by the second it feels like, irritates the shit out of me.

It has been. It's *so* hard to believe, where does all the time go?

Also, hey you!

[identity profile] sassangel.livejournal.com 2012-06-20 06:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Hey you too!

I'm supposed to be doing my job right now. Eh.

I am a proud geek. So says the Star Wars bobble heads and rubber ducky on my desk. *nods*

I judge my age by my kids. Kassie graduates next week. She was six or seven when we met... yeah.

[identity profile] turnonmyheels.livejournal.com 2012-06-20 06:58 pm (UTC)(link)
O.O

that puts it in perspective doesn't it?

O.o

[identity profile] sassangel.livejournal.com 2012-06-20 07:36 pm (UTC)(link)
At times like these I like to quote Fried Green tomatoes

Girl #1: Face it, lady, we're younger and faster.

Evelyn Couch: Face it, girls, I'm older and I have more insurance

[identity profile] turnonmyheels.livejournal.com 2012-06-20 07:43 pm (UTC)(link)
That is my favorite Kathy Bates moment in her entire career and that's saying something.

[identity profile] nochick-fics.livejournal.com 2012-06-20 06:31 pm (UTC)(link)
ALL THE FEELS

The hell does that even mean?

[identity profile] turnonmyheels.livejournal.com 2012-06-20 06:34 pm (UTC)(link)
The best I can determine is it means your heart is so full of emotion that your brain and your fingers are no longer connected and you're completely incapable of typing out three more letters.

[identity profile] sassangel.livejournal.com 2012-06-20 06:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Ha!

*wipes tears* I love you.

No really I FEELS it

[identity profile] turnonmyheels.livejournal.com 2012-06-20 06:57 pm (UTC)(link)
I ing you

[identity profile] nochick-fics.livejournal.com 2012-06-20 07:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Now that I've finally stopped laughing all I can say is wow. Now that's some damn serious emotion.

My knowledge of Iron Man is limited to the first movie, but I liked what little I know of Pepper, very much.

[identity profile] turnonmyheels.livejournal.com 2012-06-20 07:09 pm (UTC)(link)
My work here is done ;-)

Pepper is the badass behind Tony, without her he wouldn't be capable of functioning outside his workshop. Sad, but true.

[identity profile] azewewish.livejournal.com 2012-06-20 07:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Also, we get it, Thor is a god, STOP BANGING ME OVER THE FUCKING HEAD WITH THIS FACT. Just call him Thor. It's not that freaking difficult.

Also, Clint has a name, please stop calling him "the archer", especially during sex scenes. (See also: "captain" for Steve, "scientist" for Bruce, "spy" for Natasha, "billionaire" for Tony.)


And yeah, call me an old fandom hag, but all the feels just fills me with all the friggin' rage. Use your words, people. (See, also: "because...reasons." The only time the whole "because..." thing works is when Cleolinda uses it in her 15 Minute Movie Review for Prometheus & explains some random crazy point with "because...science", because that's EXACTLY what Damon Lindeloff did in the script. Just handwaved the science.)

[identity profile] turnonmyheels.livejournal.com 2012-06-20 07:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, or my personal favorite god-like alien. I has the feels! I has all the feels! It's as fucking annoying as, no it's *more* annoying than that whole pr0n thing. IT'S PORN IF YOU'RE ASHAMED AND CAN'T TYPE IT MAYBE YOU SHOULDN'T READ IT/WRITE IT.

I'm sorry for yelling at you, please forgive me, I can't help myself sometimes.

::bangs head::

Texting [and only sometimes here] and twitter are the only places where I feel like it's appropriate to shortcut and that's mainly because of the lack of characters you get on Twitter and sometimes people text while doing other things so it has to be fast.

[identity profile] azewewish.livejournal.com 2012-06-20 07:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Don't even get me started on pr0n or smex - we'll be here all day. You want to talk about someone who has all the friggin' feels about something, that would be me on that subject. ;)

[identity profile] turnonmyheels.livejournal.com 2012-06-20 07:30 pm (UTC)(link)
LOL!!

Did the feels come from tumbler? I feel like it must have. I do not get tumbler proof number gazillion that I am out of touch

[identity profile] azewewish.livejournal.com 2012-06-20 07:38 pm (UTC)(link)
As far as I can ascertain, yes, all the feels came from Tumblr. Which I don't get, either. It's a whole bunch of people reblogging the same damn gifs over & over, as far as I can tell.

[identity profile] turnonmyheels.livejournal.com 2012-06-20 07:44 pm (UTC)(link)
That's why it confuses me, what is the point? I've read fic over there. You can never find it again. It's a pointless place filled with pointless people.

[identity profile] ldthomps.livejournal.com 2012-06-20 07:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh noes! I had a sad when I read your post. :(

Ahahaha, ok, maybe not. I know a lot of people label such posts "unpopular fannish opinions"? But from everything I've heard from my corner of fandom, your opinions are RIGHT and should feel good about themselves. Because bad grammar and misogyny and self-indulgent bad-writing are all NOT OK.

Ahem. Anyway! Did you intend the "fluent" instead of "fluid" sexuality, or have their rampant homynyms corrupted you? Not that I don't think Tony's sexuality is Totally Fluent as well as Fluid.

You: RIGHT IN THE FACE. (whatever that means)

[identity profile] turnonmyheels.livejournal.com 2012-06-20 07:43 pm (UTC)(link)
DUDE I DESERVE RIGHT IN THE FACE

I edited that post I think about 6 times to get rid of all the mistakes and I read fluent as fluid *every single time* which is a perfect example of why people should have betas! I proved my own case.

HAHAHA

I will admit to *loving* saying to people in person that I have a sad. It makes non-internet people hysterical

[identity profile] ldthomps.livejournal.com 2012-06-20 07:50 pm (UTC)(link)
I will confess that I kind of love "have a sad", too, mostly in the snarky way Dan Savage used it today, where he told the girl that if her boyfriend "has a sad" when he finds out she went against his wishes and got a vibrator and finally had her first orgasm, she should dump him, pronto *g*. Sort of like "butthurt", but without the anal.

[identity profile] turnonmyheels.livejournal.com 2012-06-20 07:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Butthurt is another favorite of mine. But these phrases can be useful in RL butthurt especially help people avoid profanity.

[identity profile] moosesal.livejournal.com 2012-06-20 07:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Damn. You beat me to the fluent/fluid thing. Tony's definitely fluent at sex, but...

[identity profile] turnonmyheels.livejournal.com 2012-06-20 07:50 pm (UTC)(link)
I proved my beta point without even trying! I re-read this several times and each time I read fluent as fluid.

[identity profile] moosesal.livejournal.com 2012-06-20 07:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh honey. May your blood run soon. *g*

And this is why I don't read much that hasn't been recced to me anymore.

[identity profile] turnonmyheels.livejournal.com 2012-06-20 07:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Please lady solstice let it run. I may be going a bit crazy here.

My avengers tag at pinboard is rocking with the awesome fics, but work has been very slow so I've been less discerning with what I'm reading due to boredom and that leads to posts like this.

[identity profile] moosesal.livejournal.com 2012-06-20 07:55 pm (UTC)(link)
May work pick up just enough that you only have time for quality fic. :)

[identity profile] turnonmyheels.livejournal.com 2012-06-20 08:00 pm (UTC)(link)
*that* would be the biggest blessing of all *g*

Another aggravation is that I'm having car trouble, really weird car trouble. I finally got it to the local mechanic today I'm hoping he can fix it so I don't have to spend a day at the dealership.

[identity profile] moosesal.livejournal.com 2012-06-20 08:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Car trouble is never good. Hope that turns out to be an easy fix today.

[identity profile] turnonmyheels.livejournal.com 2012-06-20 08:26 pm (UTC)(link)
just heard from the mechanic that he's putting in a new starter which would totally explain all the trouble.
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[identity profile] mskatej.livejournal.com 2012-06-21 08:59 am (UTC)(link)
ahahaha ilu

I'll see your 'all the feels' and raise you 'life ruiner'. Like, both of these things were probably brilliant the first time they were uttered, but they've since been destroyed by witless ubiquity. Just because it was funny/clever once, doesn't mean it's automatically funny/clever every single time.

[identity profile] turnonmyheels.livejournal.com 2012-06-21 05:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, I haven't come across 'life ruiner' yet. YAY me! Of course now that I've said that, I'll see it and in three months I'll make another one of these posts and that will be at the top.

[identity profile] thisisbone.livejournal.com 2012-06-21 05:11 pm (UTC)(link)
*hugs* Thank you! And it is ALMOST time for Magic Mike! ALMOST!

[identity profile] turnonmyheels.livejournal.com 2012-06-21 05:48 pm (UTC)(link)
::spins round and round::

I can't wait!